[ekb]

Hey brickie - what's up with all this "feeling" ?


Ed

 

[brickie]

Hey, after being on a construction sight all day, i gotta show my sensititve side..LOL


brickie

 

[ekb]

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Originally posted by Stereojeff The fact that a receiver is rated from 40 Hz to 20 kHz does not mean that the receiver stops at 40 Hz. All such receivers have response that extends below 20 Hz. The Shewrood RX-4103 receiver you're considering could be rated at 85 to 90 watts per channel from 20 Hz to 20 kHz. The difference in both performance and ratings is miniscule when measured in dB and will have no effect on your use of it to drive the bass shakers. IMO, it is entirely suitable for this use. We choose to rate the RX-4103 from 40 Hz to 20 kHz to insure that its power rating will reach or exceed 100 watts per channel. For reasons no one can understand, the American CE distribution channel usually rejects receivers rated at less than 100 Watts. Jeff

Jeff,


This is very ironic because IMO I'd come to just the opposite conclusion. If a receiver is only rated down to 40 Hz, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole. May it does do 20 Hz at just a fraction of a dB down, but then maybe it's 10 dB down at 20 Hz. And like you said, the difference between 85W and 100W is only 1.4 dB which is nothing. Years ago, everybody was using 20-20kHz. What happened to that?


Ed

 

[Stereojeff]

The market changed.


There are fewer dealers. Buyers and consumers alike are less knowledgable. But there are is no shortage of suppliers. In this intensely competitive environment the buyer does not have time to make a thorough study of every product presented to him. Therefore, IMO, buyers set up arbitrary criteria to judge product quality. For receivers, they set the bar at 100 watts. Products that make that benchmark are given additional scrutiny. Products that fall below are dismissed.


Jeff

 

[brickie]

Quote:

Originally posted by Stereojeff The market changed. There are fewer dealers. Buyers and consumers alike are less knowledgable. But there are is no shortage of suppliers. In this intensely competitive environment the buyer does not have time to make a thorough study of every product presented to him. Therefore, IMO, buyers set up arbitrary criteria to judge product quality. For receivers, they set the bar at 100 watts. Products that make that benchmark are given additional scrutiny. Products that fall below are dismissed. Jeff

Jeff, Man you hit it dead on the head..I believe this is one reaosn why many don't look at Harmon Kardon.Strictly by specs alone, all their receivers really seem underpowered.But in the mags, thaty are always thought to have more than enough power..Which from my understanding it's never a continuous 100 watts anyway..Just brief bursts when necessary..


brickie

 

[Tom_Kini]

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Originally posted by Stereojeff Brickie: Thanks for considering the Sherwood RX-4103. All of us here at Sherwood appreciate the thought. Hope the Onkyo works out, if not I imagine that CC will have the RX-4103 on sale again. Jeff

I went ahead and bought the Sherwood and set up 2 Pro Shakers 50W. No problem except I am getting too much high freq reaction (probably between 60-100Hz). I am trying it with different DVD's etc. and trying to find the right volume settings to get the right feel. However, I have not set it up yet in my final configuration - driving 6 shakers all together. Based on what you said it seems that the Sherwood will be okay. I am assuming that you actually have measured it at 20Hz -- what was the power rating?


Got it on sale at CC.